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Piòla - Discussion an tra j'utent[modifiché]

Admin rights Ooswesthoesbes[modifiché]

Hi, I'd like to request temporary admin rights to help the community building up the templates (currently broken; requires MediaWiki editing). I think a period of about one month would be sufficient. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 14:51, 8 giu 2018 (UTC)

Support, he's an experienced sysop on --Candalua (ciaciarade) 14:54, 8 giu 2018 (UTC)
Support: my full support too! I need the work done! --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 14:55, 8 giu 2018 (UTC)


In the long run, one or both of you should become a sysop, too. Once OWTB finishes doing what he's going to do, people who know the language (you) need to step in. Congratulations, and good luck! StevenJ81 (ciaciarade) 18:16, 8 giu 2018 (UTC)

I fully agree. I believe Pcastellina already hinted at him becoming administrator. If that's what he wants, I suggest he already opens a vote, so he can take it over once I'm done here. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 18:27, 8 giu 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I am the one who initiated and carries on, for the moment, most of the work here and I am active in the field of the preservation of the Piedmontese language and literature elsewhere. There are only a few other active people accessing this platform who are knowledgeable of the system and certainly I can ask them to vote me as sysop here. I am more than willing also to ask others to join in (and be taught). Just tell me how to do this voting procedure and where. Thanks. --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 07:12, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)
I'll open the vote below. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 08:51, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to know too what are my responsabilities and privileges as a sysop. Where can I find a description? --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 14:55, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)
You can read this page for more information. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 09:16, 11 giu 2018 (UTC)

I just saw they granted me the rights until the 9th. I will address the issues as soon as possible. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 15:13, 12 giu 2018 (UTC)

Did I receive these rights yet? Who is going to give me the notification? I would need to modify the side-bar (especially for the reference of the help). I would also need to block any modification of the entry page made by unauthorized people. Thanks. --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 12:55, 14 giu 2018 (CEST)
Hi, the general policy is to wait at least a week. I'll put your request to the central authority now. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 12:21, 15 giu 2018 (CEST)

Admin rights Pcastellina[modifiché]

I nominate User:Pcastellina for permanent admin rights. He is a trusted user who has worked hard on this project. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 08:52, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)

Support. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 08:52, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)
Support. --Candalua (ciaciarade) 08:59, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)
Support. --Graziano.eugenio (ciaciarade) 14:51, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)
Support. --Borichèt (ciaciarade) 20:41, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)
Support. --Carlo_ellena (ciaciarade) 07:13, 11 giu 2018 (UTC)


As nearly one week has passed, I put the request on meta. It can be found here. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 12:25, 15 giu 2018 (CEST)

As the community is considered to be too small, they only gave you temporary admin access for 1 year. So, your admin access will expire on 19-06-2019, and you have to hold a new vote about a week before it expires. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 10:51, 20 giu 2018 (CEST)

Un incontro a Ginevra[modifiché]

Innanzitutto complimenti perchè in così poco tempo siete riusciti a far decollare Wikisource in piemontese. Ne approfitto per dire che dal 22 al 24 giugno, a margine di un convegno con tutt'altro tema [1] cercherò di parlare con gli altri wikimediani svizzeri, italiani e francesi di iniziative per rilanciare progetti comuni alle diverse Wikisource. Se come WS.pms avete discorsi particolari da portare avanti scrivete pure qui.--Mizardellorsa (ciaciarade) 17:46, 12 giu 2018 (UTC).

Come devo fare per inserire un trafiletto di benvenuto simile a --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 08:35, 13 giu 2018 (UTC)
Grazie delle informazioni. Continua a tenerci informati e fa conoscere ad altri che "ci siamo anche noi" qui. --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 19:47, 12 giu 2018 (UTC)

Update on page issues on mobile web[modifiché]

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 20:58, 12 giu 2018 (UTC)

Teaching the public[modifiché]

I know people who could work with us here, but have difficulty in using the WikiMedia platform. We need to teach them even the basic steps. Is there any tutorial available for teaching beginners step by step? We do not have to take anything for granted. Many are really clumsy with IT. --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 07:34, 13 giu 2018 (UTC)

Help pages like these can be found on most wikis. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 10:37, 13 giu 2018 (UTC)

Interwiki transclusions[modifiché]

Hi! Would it be possible that an administrator to edit the MediaWiki:Common.js and include this line, please?:


This will capture the javascript from Multilingual Wikisource that will allow the capture of text that is present in certains works in other Wikisources (e.g. Catalan Wikisource) to be shown in piedmontèis Wikisource (it sounds odd!) :) E.g.: Il corsale and other 4 texts). This works OK in other WS like ca:MediaWiki:Common.js, es:MediaWiki:Common.js and others. Now they don't show the text. Thanks! -Aleator (ciaciarade) 22:38, 4 luj 2018 (CEST)

No feedback? -Aleator (ciaciarade) 23:36, 22 ost 2018 (CEST)
Sorry, personally I have no idea of what this means... --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 22:08, 24 ost 2018 (CEST)
Hi, Pcastellina! If you look for example to Il corsale you will see no text, because the text comes from the Catalan Wikisource (thanks to the template:Iwpages that is instead of the text), but this template only works if MediaWiki:Common.js has the following line of code:
That code forces to all users (because it would be added to Common.js, the javascript that all users load when visit a Wikisource) to also load the javascript that makes the template:Iwpages to work, that is,
You can see for example that the Italian Wikisource also has that line of code at its it:MediaWiki:Common.js. So thanks to that, tha Italian Wikisource page it:Il corsale loads the text from the Catalan Wikisource, as Il corsale will do if that change is applied here. (By the way, I don't know why it.source has the text, if it is not Italian, AFAIK).
While this change is not made, those 5 pages I told will have no text (because the text is in another Wikisource).
I know that all this sounds very rare. You can ask to any it.source admins if you prefer. Thanks! -Aleator (ciaciarade) 18:35, 27 nov 2018 (CET)

Words hyphenated across pages in Wikisource are now joined[modifiché]

Hi, this is a message by Can da Lua as discussed here for wikisource communities

The ProofreadPage extension can now join together a word that is split between a page and the next.

In the past, when a page was ending with "concat-" and the next page was beginning with "enation", the resulting transclusion would have been "concat- enation", and a special template like d:Q15630535 had to be used to obtain the word "concatenation".

Now the default behavior has changed: the hyphen at the end of a page is suppressed and in this case no space is inserted, so the result of the transclusion will be: "concatenation", without the need of a template. The "joiner" character is defined by default as "-" (the regular hyphen), but it is possible to change this. A template may still be needed to deal with particular cases when the hyphen needs to be preserved.

Please share this information with your community.

MediaWiki message delivery (ciaciarade) 12:28, 30 stè 2018 (CEST)


Nei giorni 16-18 novembre si tiene a Como ItWikiCon, tre giornate di dibattiti fra i wikimediani. So che la situazione di Wikisource in piemontese vede il principale contributore dimorare in un posto lontano, ma se qualcuno riesce a programmare la presenza sarebbe un modo di conoscersi di persona. La parte di programma già finora delineato è raggiungibile con questo link Entro il 16 ottobre si possono proporre nuovi temi. Io tento di raccogliere adesioni, anche da lontano, per una sessione dedicata alle Wikisource nelle lingue così dette minori Se potete mandare qualche riga riassuntiva della vostra esperienza, potrebbe essere utilizzata nel dibattito.--Mizardellorsa (ciaciarade) 11:25, 1 otó 2018 (CEST)

Aperte le iscrizioni per itWikiCon 2018[modifiché]

Ciao a tutti. Da venerdì 16 a domenica 18 novembre 2018, Como ospiterà la seconda edizione di itWikiCon. È ora possibile registrarsi seguendo le istruzioni presenti a questo link. Nella stessa pagina trovate anche le istruzioni per richiedere una borsa di partecipazione e il relativo regolamento.
Ulteriori informazioni logistiche si trovano sul sito dell'evento, mentre il programma (non ancora definitivo) è disponibile su meta: ItWikiCon/2018/Programma
Ne approfitto anche per ricordarvi che potete votare per scegliere il logo di itWikiCon, in questa pagina.
Per qualsiasi domanda potete scrivere qui, oppure a Ysogo e, per questioni relative al programma, CristianNX, Civvì e Ruthven. --Superchilum (ciaciarade) 09:27, 7 otó 2018 (CEST)

including html[modifiché]

Is it possible to upgrade this platform in order to include html inserts? --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 22:08, 2 dzè 2018 (CET)

Selection of the Wikisource Community User Group representative to the Wikimedia Summit[modifiché]

Dear all,

Sorry for writing in English and cross-posting this message.

The Wikisource Community User Group could send one representative to the Wikimedia Summit 2019 (formerly "Wikimedia Conference"). The Wikimedia Summit is a yearly conference of all organizations affiliated to the Wikimedia Movement (including our Wikisource Community User Group). It is a great place to talk about Wikisource needs to the chapters and other user groups that compose the Wikimedia movement. For context, there is a short report on what happened last year. The deadline is short and to avoid the confusing vote on the Wikisource-I mailing list of last year, we created a page on meta to decide who will be the representative of the user group to the Wikimedia Summit.

The vote will be in two parts:

  1. until December 7th, people can add their name and a short explanation on who they are and why they want to go to the summit. Nomination of other people is allowed, the nominated person should accept their nomination.
  2. starting December 7th, and for a week, the community vote to designate the representative.

Please feel free to ask any question on the wikisource-I mailing list or on the talk page.

For the Wikisource Community User Group, Tpt (talk) 15:15, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

New tools and IP masking[modifiché]

16:19, 21 ost 2019 (CEST)

The consultation on partial and temporary Foundation bans just started[modifiché]

-- Kbrown (WMF) 19:14, 30 stè 2019 (CEST)

Feedback wanted on Desktop Improvements project[modifiché]

09:15, 16 otó 2019 (CEST)

Community Wishlist 2020[modifiché]

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IFried (WMF) 20:30, 4 nov 2019 (CET)

Wiki Loves Folklore[modifiché]

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Hello Folks,

Wiki Loves Love is back again in 2020 iteration as Wiki Loves Folklore from 1 February, 2020 - 29 February, 2020. Join us to celebrate the local cultural heritage of your region with the theme of folklore in the international photography contest at Wikimedia Commons. Images, videos and audios representing different forms of folk cultures and new forms of heritage that haven’t otherwise been documented so far are welcome submissions in Wiki Loves Folklore. Learn more about the contest at Meta-Wiki and Commons.

Kind regards,
Wiki Loves Folklore International Team
— Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk)
sent using MediaWiki message delivery (ciaciarade) 07:15, 18 gen 2020 (CET)

Movement Learning and Leadership Development Project[modifiché]


The Wikimedia Foundation’s Community Development team is seeking to learn more about the way volunteers learn and develop into the many different roles that exist in the movement. Our goal is to build a movement informed framework that provides shared clarity and outlines accessible pathways on how to grow and develop skills within the movement. To this end, we are looking to speak with you, our community to learn about your journey as a Wikimedia volunteer. Whether you joined yesterday or have been here from the very start, we want to hear about the many ways volunteers join and contribute to our movement.

To learn more about the project, please visit the Meta page. If you are interested in participating in the project, please complete this simple Google form. Although we may not be able to speak to everyone who expresses interest, we encourage you to complete this short form if you are interested in participating!

-- LMiranda (WMF) (talk) 20:01, 22 gen 2020 (CET)

Community Tech Launches Wikisource Improvement Initiative[modifiché]

Apologies for the broken links in the previous message. This message is in English, but we encourage translation into other languages. Thank you!

Hello everyone,

We hope you are all healthy and safe in these difficult times.

The Community Tech team has just launched a new initiative to improve Wikisource. We will be addressing five separate wishes, which came out of the 2020 Community Wishlist Survey, and we want you to be a part of the process! The projects include the following:

For the first project, the team will focus on the #1 wish: improve ebook exports. We have created a project page, which includes an analysis of the ebook export process. We now invite everyone to visit the page and share their feedback on the project talk page. Please let us know what you think of our analysis; we want to hear from all of you! Furthermore, we hope that you will participate in the other Wikisource improvement projects, which we’ll address in the future. Thank you in advance and we look forward to reading your feedback on the ebook export improvement talk page!

-- IFried (WMF) (Product Manager, Community Tech)

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Lavorando su nap.source, mi sono imbattuto nella traduzione tedesca di poesie e canti italiani, fra cui alcuni testi in piemontese. Andrebbero recuperati qui, piuttosto che averli sparsi su vari progetti: Tàula:Agrumi - August Kopisch - 1838.pdf. (@Pcastellina Che mi sembra l'utente più attivo ultimamente.) Nel caso, posso dare una mano. Saluti --Ruthven (ciaciarade) 16:35, 5 giu 2020 (CEST)

Se mi mandi i testi che hai trovato, mi farebbe piacere. Grazie. Mandameli a paolocastellina @ (senza spazi). Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 10:03, 6 giu 2020 (CEST)
@Pcastellina Ciao, possiamo fare più semplicemente. Se vai a Ennece:Agrumi_-_August_Kopisch_-_1838.pdf, trovi tutte le pagine segnate comn "pms" sono quelle in piemontese da trascrivere qui (poi le integriamo da Tàula:Agrumi - August Kopisch - 1838.pdf su nap.source). Controlla però anche su Wikisource in italiano che il testo non sia già presente - in tal caso lo tagli e incolli qui, sostituendo il tutto con {{iwpage|pms}}. Nel caso, fammi un ping se bisogna coordinarci su qualcosa. --Ruthven (ciaciarade) 12:27, 8 giu 2020 (CEST)

Feedback on movement names[modifiché]

Ciao. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. Aiutaci a tradurre nella tua lingua if necessary. Mersì!

There are a lot of conversations happening about the future of our movement names. We hope that you are part of these discussions and that your community is represented.

Since 16 June, the Foundation Brand Team has been running a survey in 7 languages about 3 naming options. There are also community members sharing concerns about renaming in a Community Open Letter.

Our goal in this call for feedback is to hear from across the community, so we encourage you to participate in the survey, the open letter, or both. The survey will go through 7 July in all timezones. Input from the survey and discussions will be analyzed and published on Meta-Wiki.

Thanks for thinking about the future of the movement, --The Brand Project team, 21:39, 2 luj 2020 (CEST)

Note: The survey is conducted via a third-party service, which may subject it to additional terms. For more information on privacy and data-handling, see the survey privacy statement.

Announcing a new wiki project! Welcome, Abstract Wikipedia[modifiché]

Sent by m:User:Elitre (WMF) 22:13, 9 luj 2020 (CEST) - m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia/July 2020 announcement

Feedback requested: Ebook Export Improvement Project[modifiché]

Note: This message is in English, but we encourage translation into other languages. Thank you!

Hello, everyone!

I am pleased to announce that the Community Tech team at WMF has posted our August update on the Wikisource Ebook Export Improvement project! This project came out of our 2020 Community Wishlist Survey, and it was the #1 wish voted on by survey participants.

So, what does this mean? In short, we want your feedback! Now that we have posted the August update, we want to know what you think. The update includes findings from our community consultation, results from two separate analyses conducted by the team (on improving WSExport reliability & font rendering support), and proposed next steps. It is our hope that people can read our analysis, share their feedback, and engage in a conversation with us on the talk page. Your feedback will be invaluable, and it will help determine the next steps of the project.

Thank you to everyone who has participated in the consultation so far! It's been a joy to explore how we can improve the ebook export experience. Now, we look forward to reading a new round of feedback on the project talk page!

-- IFried (WMF) (Product Manager, Community Tech)

Sent by User:SGill (WMF) using MediaWiki message delivery (ciaciarade) 14:14, 17 ost 2020 (CEST)

Important: maintenance operation on September 1st[modifiché]

Trizek (WMF) (talk) 15:49, 26 ost 2020 (CEST)

Invitation to participate in the conversation[modifiché]

Wikisource Pagelist Widget: Ready to be enabled[modifiché]

Note: This message is in English, but we encourage translation into other languages. Thank you!

Hello everyone,

We are excited to announce that the Wikisource Pagelist widget is now available to be enabled on all Wikisources. Any interface admin on your wiki can enable it by using the instructions on the following page:

In case, your wiki doesn’t have an interface admin, reach out to us on the ‘Help with enabling the widget on your wiki’ section of the project talk page and we will connect you with a global interface admin:

You will need to hold a local discussion around what would be the labels for different page types in your language for the visual mode. (For example, ToC = ਤਤਕਰਾ in Punjabi, title = শিরোনাম in Bengali)

Feel free to also give us any feedback on the project talk page on Meta-Wiki as well.


Sohom Datta

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