Wikisource:Piòla

Piòla - Discussion an tra j'utent

Admin rights Ooswesthoesbes

Hi, I'd like to request temporary admin rights to help the community building up the templates (currently broken; requires MediaWiki editing). I think a period of about one month would be sufficient. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 14:51, 8 giu 2018 (UTC)

Support, he's an experienced sysop on mul.ws --Candalua (ciaciarade) 14:54, 8 giu 2018 (UTC)

Support: my full support too! I need the work done! --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 14:55, 8 giu 2018 (UTC)

Comments

In the long run, one or both of you should become a sysop, too. Once OWTB finishes doing what he's going to do, people who know the language (you) need to step in. Congratulations, and good luck! StevenJ81 (ciaciarade) 18:16, 8 giu 2018 (UTC)

I fully agree. I believe Pcastellina already hinted at him becoming administrator. If that's what he wants, I suggest he already opens a vote, so he can take it over once I'm done here. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 18:27, 8 giu 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I am the one who initiated and carries on, for the moment, most of the work here and I am active in the field of the preservation of the Piedmontese language and literature elsewhere. There are only a few other active people accessing this platform who are knowledgeable of the system and certainly I can ask them to vote me as sysop here. I am more than willing also to ask others to join in (and be taught). Just tell me how to do this voting procedure and where. Thanks. --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 07:12, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)

I'll open the vote below. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 08:51, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)

I'd like to know too what are my responsabilities and privileges as a sysop. Where can I find a description? --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 14:55, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)

You can read this page for more information. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 09:16, 11 giu 2018 (UTC)

I just saw they granted me the rights until the 9th. I will address the issues as soon as possible. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 15:13, 12 giu 2018 (UTC)

Did I receive these rights yet? Who is going to give me the notification? I would need to modify the side-bar (especially for the reference of the help). I would also need to block any modification of the entry page made by unauthorized people. Thanks. --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 12:55, 14 giu 2018 (CEST)

Hi, the general policy is to wait at least a week. I'll put your request to the central authority now. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 12:21, 15 giu 2018 (CEST)

Admin rights Pcastellina

I nominate User:Pcastellina for permanent admin rights. He is a trusted user who has worked hard on this project. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 08:52, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)

Support. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 08:52, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)

Support. --Candalua (ciaciarade) 08:59, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)

Support. --Graziano.eugenio (ciaciarade) 14:51, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)

Support. --Borichèt (ciaciarade) 20:41, 9 giu 2018 (UTC)

Support. --Carlo_ellena (ciaciarade) 07:13, 11 giu 2018 (UTC)

Comments

As nearly one week has passed, I put the request on meta. It can be found here. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 12:25, 15 giu 2018 (CEST)

As the community is considered to be too small, they only gave you temporary admin access for 1 year. So, your admin access will expire on 19-06-2019, and you have to hold a new vote about a week before it expires. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 10:51, 20 giu 2018 (CEST)

Un incontro a Ginevra

Innanzitutto complimenti perchè in così poco tempo siete riusciti a far decollare Wikisource in piemontese. Ne approfitto per dire che dal 22 al 24 giugno, a margine di un convegno con tutt'altro tema [1] cercherò di parlare con gli altri wikimediani svizzeri, italiani e francesi di iniziative per rilanciare progetti comuni alle diverse Wikisource. Se come WS.pms avete discorsi particolari da portare avanti scrivete pure qui.--Mizardellorsa (ciaciarade) 17:46, 12 giu 2018 (UTC).

Come devo fare per inserire un trafiletto di benvenuto simile a https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Pagina_principale --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 08:35, 13 giu 2018 (UTC)

Grazie delle informazioni. Continua a tenerci informati e fa conoscere ad altri che "ci siamo anche noi" qui. --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 19:47, 12 giu 2018 (UTC)

Update on page issues on mobile web

Update on page issues on mobile web

Aiutaci a tradurre nella tua lingua Hi everyone. The Readers web team has recently begun working on exposing issue templates on the mobile website. Currently, details about issues with page content are generally hidden on the mobile website. This leaves readers unaware of the reliability of the pages they are reading. The goal of this project is to improve awareness of particular issues within an article on the mobile web. We will do this by changing the visual styling of page issues.

So far, we have drafted a proposal on the design and implementation of the project. We were also able to run user testing on the proposed designs. The tests so far have positive results. Here is a quick summary of what we learned:

• The new treatment increases awareness of page issues among participants. This is true particularly when they are in a more evaluative/critical mode.
• Page issues make sense to readers and they understand how they work
• Readers care about page issues and consider them important
• Readers had overwhelmingly positive sentiments towards Wikipedia associated with learning about page issues

Our next step would be to start implementing these changes. We wanted to reach out to you for any concerns, thoughts, and suggestions you might have before beginning development. Please visit the project page where we have more information and mockups of how this may look. Please leave feedback on the talk page.

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 20:58, 12 giu 2018 (UTC)

Teaching the public

I know people who could work with us here, but have difficulty in using the WikiMedia platform. We need to teach them even the basic steps. Is there any tutorial available for teaching beginners step by step? We do not have to take anything for granted. Many are really clumsy with IT. --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 07:34, 13 giu 2018 (UTC)

Help pages like these can be found on most wikis. --Ooswesthoesbes (ciaciarade) 10:37, 13 giu 2018 (UTC)

Interwiki transclusions

Hi! Would it be possible that an administrator to edit the MediaWiki:Common.js and include this line, please?:

mw.loader.load('//wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:InterWikiTransclusion.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');

This will capture the javascript from Multilingual Wikisource that will allow the capture of text that is present in certains works in other Wikisources (e.g. Catalan Wikisource) to be shown in piedmontèis Wikisource (it sounds odd!) :) E.g.: Il corsale and other 4 texts). This works OK in other WS like ca:MediaWiki:Common.js, es:MediaWiki:Common.js and others. Now they don't show the text. Thanks! -Aleator (ciaciarade) 22:38, 4 luj 2018 (CEST)

No feedback? -Aleator (ciaciarade) 23:36, 22 ost 2018 (CEST)

Sorry, personally I have no idea of what this means... --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 22:08, 24 ost 2018 (CEST)

Hi, Pcastellina! If you look for example to Il corsale you will see no text, because the text comes from the Catalan Wikisource (thanks to the template:Iwpages that is instead of the text), but this template only works if MediaWiki:Common.js has the following line of code:

mw.loader.load('//wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:InterWikiTransclusion.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');

That code forces to all users (because it would be added to Common.js, the javascript that all users load when visit a Wikisource) to also load the javascript that makes the template:Iwpages to work, that is, https://wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:InterWikiTransclusion.js.

You can see for example that the Italian Wikisource also has that line of code at its it:MediaWiki:Common.js. So thanks to that, tha Italian Wikisource page it:Il corsale loads the text from the Catalan Wikisource, as Il corsale will do if that change is applied here. (By the way, I don't know why it.source has the text, if it is not Italian, AFAIK).

While this change is not made, those 5 pages I told will have no text (because the text is in another Wikisource).

I know that all this sounds very rare. You can ask to any it.source admins if you prefer. Thanks! -Aleator (ciaciarade) 18:35, 27 nov 2018 (CET)

Words hyphenated across pages in Wikisource are now joined

Hi, this is a message by Can da Lua as discussed here for wikisource communities

The ProofreadPage extension can now join together a word that is split between a page and the next.

In the past, when a page was ending with "concat-" and the next page was beginning with "enation", the resulting transclusion would have been "concat- enation", and a special template like d:Q15630535 had to be used to obtain the word "concatenation".

Now the default behavior has changed: the hyphen at the end of a page is suppressed and in this case no space is inserted, so the result of the transclusion will be: "concatenation", without the need of a template. The "joiner" character is defined by default as "-" (the regular hyphen), but it is possible to change this. A template may still be needed to deal with particular cases when the hyphen needs to be preserved.

Please share this information with your community.

MediaWiki message delivery (ciaciarade) 12:28, 30 stè 2018 (CEST)

ItWikiCon

Nei giorni 16-18 novembre si tiene a Como ItWikiCon, tre giornate di dibattiti fra i wikimediani. So che la situazione di Wikisource in piemontese vede il principale contributore dimorare in un posto lontano, ma se qualcuno riesce a programmare la presenza sarebbe un modo di conoscersi di persona. La parte di programma già finora delineato è raggiungibile con questo link Entro il 16 ottobre si possono proporre nuovi temi. Io tento di raccogliere adesioni, anche da lontano, per una sessione dedicata alle Wikisource nelle lingue così dette minori Se potete mandare qualche riga riassuntiva della vostra esperienza, potrebbe essere utilizzata nel dibattito.--Mizardellorsa (ciaciarade) 11:25, 1 otó 2018 (CEST)

Aperte le iscrizioni per itWikiCon 2018

Ciao a tutti. Da venerdì 16 a domenica 18 novembre 2018, Como ospiterà la seconda edizione di itWikiCon. È ora possibile registrarsi seguendo le istruzioni presenti a questo link. Nella stessa pagina trovate anche le istruzioni per richiedere una borsa di partecipazione e il relativo regolamento.
Ulteriori informazioni logistiche si trovano sul sito dell'evento, mentre il programma (non ancora definitivo) è disponibile su meta: ItWikiCon/2018/Programma
Ne approfitto anche per ricordarvi che potete votare per scegliere il logo di itWikiCon, in questa pagina.
Per qualsiasi domanda potete scrivere qui, oppure a Ysogo e, per questioni relative al programma, CristianNX, Civvì e Ruthven. --Superchilum (ciaciarade) 09:27, 7 otó 2018 (CEST)

including html

Is it possible to upgrade this platform in order to include html inserts? --Pcastellina (ciaciarade) 22:08, 2 dzè 2018 (CET)

Selection of the Wikisource Community User Group representative to the Wikimedia Summit

Dear all,

Sorry for writing in English and cross-posting this message.

The Wikisource Community User Group could send one representative to the Wikimedia Summit 2019 (formerly "Wikimedia Conference"). The Wikimedia Summit is a yearly conference of all organizations affiliated to the Wikimedia Movement (including our Wikisource Community User Group). It is a great place to talk about Wikisource needs to the chapters and other user groups that compose the Wikimedia movement. For context, there is a short report on what happened last year. The deadline is short and to avoid the confusing vote on the Wikisource-I mailing list of last year, we created a page on meta to decide who will be the representative of the user group to the Wikimedia Summit.

The vote will be in two parts:

1. until December 7th, people can add their name and a short explanation on who they are and why they want to go to the summit. Nomination of other people is allowed, the nominated person should accept their nomination.
2. starting December 7th, and for a week, the community vote to designate the representative.

Please feel free to ask any question on the wikisource-I mailing list or on the talk page.

For the Wikisource Community User Group, Tpt (talk) 15:15, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

New tools and IP masking

Hey everyone,

The Wikimedia Foundation wants to work on two things that affect how we patrol changes and handle vandalism and harassment. We want to make the tools that are used to handle bad edits better. We also want to get better privacy for unregistered users so their IP addresses are no longer shown to everyone in the world. We would not hide IP addresses until we have better tools for patrolling.

We have an idea of what tools could be working better and how a more limited access to IP addresses would change things, but we need to hear from more wikis. You can read more about the project on Meta and post comments and feedback. Now is when we need to hear from you to be able to give you better tools to handle vandalism, spam and harassment.

You can post in your language if you can't write in English.

Johan (WMF)

16:19, 21 ost 2019 (CEST)

The consultation on partial and temporary Foundation bans just started

Hello,

In a recent statement, the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees requested that staff hold a consultation to "re-evaluat[e] or add community input to the two new office action policy tools (temporary and partial Foundation bans)".

Accordingly, the Foundation's Trust & Safety team invites all Wikimedians to join this consultation and give their feedback from 30 September to 30 October.

How can you help?

• Suggest how partial and temporary Foundation bans should be used, if they should (eg: On all projects, or only on a subset);

• Give ideas about how partial and temporary Foundation bans should ideally implemented, if they should be; and/or

• Propose changes to the existing Office Actions policy on partial and temporary bans.

We offer our thanks in advance for your contributions, and we hope to get as much input as possible from community members during this consultation!

-- Kbrown (WMF) 19:14, 30 stè 2019 (CEST)

Feedback wanted on Desktop Improvements project

Aiutaci a tradurre nella tua lingua

Ciao. The Readers Web team at the WMF will work on some improvements to the desktop interface over the next couple of years. The goal is to increase usability without removing any functionality. We have been inspired by changes made by volunteers, but that currently only exist as local gadgets and user scripts, prototypes, and volunteer-led skins. We would like to begin the process of bringing some of these changes into the default experience on all Wikimedia projects.

We are currently in the research stage of this project and are looking for ideas for improvements, as well as feedback on our current ideas and mockups. So far, we have performed interviews with community members at Wikimania. We have gathered lists of previous volunteer and WMF work in this area. We are examining possible technical approaches for such changes.

We would like individual feedback on the following:

• Identifying focus areas for the project we have not yet discovered
• Expanding the list of existing gadgets and user scripts that are related to providing a better desktop experience. If you can think of some of these from your wiki, please let us know
• Feedback on the ideas and mockups we have collected so far

We would also like to gather a list of wikis that would be interested in being test wikis for this project - these wikis would be the first to receive the updates once we’re ready to start building.

When giving feedback, please consider the following goals of the project:

• Make it easier for readers to focus on the content
• Provide easier access to everyday actions (e.g. search, language switching, editing)
• Put things in logical and useful places
• Increase consistency in the interface with other platforms - mobile web and the apps
• Eliminate clutter
• Plan for future growth

As well as the following constraints:

• Not touching the content - no work will be done in terms of styling templates or to the structure of page contents themselves
• Not removing any functionality - things might move around, but all navigational items and other functionality currently available by default will remain
• No drastic changes to the layout - we're taking an evolutionary approach to the changes and want the site to continue feeling familiar to readers and editors

Please give all feedback (in any language) at mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements

After this round of feedback, we plan on building a prototype of suggested changes based on the feedback we receive. You’ll hear from us again asking for feedback on this prototype.

Mersì! Quiddity (WMF) (talk)

09:15, 16 otó 2019 (CEST)